Obama Mocks the Scriptures (on video) and believes the Constitution is a rasict document

http://www.youtube.co...

I’m sure you’ve seen this, I came across it for the first time in the last few days. This is a video of Obama mocking the Bible, snidely alluding that if we really read our Bibles, we wouldn't heed it. I'm really shocked that America voted in a man who not only isn't a Christian (I don't believe any Christian that I know would ever mock the Bible in a public speech) but he believes the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. Why? Because slavery was practiced during the time the Constitution was written. His casual but clear insinuation is that the Constitution is racist, the writers of the Constitution are racists and those of us who defend the Constitution are racists.

http://www.youtube.co...

How was he able to keep a straight face and swear an oath to defend and protect the Constitution? Well, if you don't believe in God an oath to God means nothing to you.

"It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington

"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." George Washington

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

"Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." William Penn


And even quotes from our Supreme Court justices (before 1960)

"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty ... of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." (1816) First chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, John Jay

"This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation ... We find everywhere a clear recognition of the same truth ... These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation.” (1892) Justice David Brewer

As recently as 1952 Justice William O. Douglas wrote: "We are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being."

Even liberal Supreme Court chief justice, Earl Warren, wrote in 1954:
"I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning been our guiding geniuses ... Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia ... or to the Charter of New England ... or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay ... or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut ... the same objective is present ... a Christian land governed by Christian principles. I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it: freedom of belief, of expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers to the people ... I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country."

Obama discounting both the Scriptures, our Judeo Christian religion and the Constitution; is he the man we voted into office? Who nominated this man for President??

Could our free republic free enterprise self government be in any greater danger? How much further are we going to let this country go from our founding principles?

For your information Anna, George W. Bush facked intelligence for eight years and I bet you never said a word. Isn't it nice to have a president that knows thw Scriptures? Does McCain know the Scriptures, I doubt it, or how about Sarah Palin, see did not know what newspapers she read let alone the Scriptures. When you talk about our president THINK who you are comparing him too. Is an ignorant president what you want after Bush?

"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.

Since I haven't really seen a lot of morality from our leaders with religion, I can't say I'd have a problem supporting leaders without religion.

Especially with all the religious fanatics we have running around Washington, believing that they have been "choosen". Who decide that the largest and most expensive buildings on our military bases should be churches. People that believe Moses really parted the Red Sea, That Noah really built an Ark, and that Jonah was really swallowed by a whale.

You have described the Fox News audience! O' Rielly and Hannity and Limbaugh count on these people for there audience.

I know speaking about morality after 8 years of Bush's dishonest, unethical, illegal, unconstitutional and ungodly leadershp is hard to hear.

But Bush was a liar and an alleged murderer (according to Vincent Bugliosi) so professing Christianity isn't going to cut it.

By their fruits you shall know them. Bush did nothing to promote the pro life agenda, he did nothing to restore truth or defend the honor of the constitutionality, he condoned the illegality of the Court making a decision regarding the 2000 election and did nothing to restore a Free Press.

So by throwing Bush out (YES I'm glad we did) does that mean we throw away our responsibility to be a moral nation? If we don't stand by the Constitution and have no respect for the Bible, where and what is the standard of moral law that we're using?

Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Making it illegal for teachers to carry Bibles and making it illegal for children to read the 10 Commandments is the epitomy of religious intolerance.

I am not into forcing Christianity upon anyone or our public school system, but religious tolerance means those that are Christians should be able to exercise their faith. We allow no religious tolerance in schools and that could be why our television is full of pornograhy and violence our government full of corruption, theft (yes out of control spending that spends our unborn children's wages without their consent is stealing), deception and secrecy.

Professing Christianity is, as Bush depicted a whole lot different from defending American principles of Constitutionality and religious tolerance. Forgt the profession of faith let's just behave as if we know right from wrong. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL. THOU SHALT NOT COVET THEY NEIGHBORS POSSESSIONS.

Bush and Obama's foreign policy in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan opposes moral law and Constitutional law - war will be waged only after a formal declaration of war by Congress.

If we don't stand by the Constitution and have no respect for the Bible, where and what is the standard of moral law that we're using?

that could be why our television is full of pornography and violence

Professing Christianity is, as Bush depicted a whole lot different from defending American principles of Constitutionality and religious tolerance. forget the profession of faith let's just behave as if we know right from wrong. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL. THOU SHALT NOT COVET THEY NEIGHBORS POSSESSIONS.

It's hard to stand by the constitution one second and then complain about the pornography and violence on TV the next...maybe you find it offensive and maybe I find it artistic...or maybe I find your religion offensive or maybe that's not what I want my children hearing in school the same way you don't want your's seeing certain things on television.

Your little rant is all over the place and full of nice little contradictions. You say forget the profession of faith and then quote the 10 commandments, which are a joke in themselves. For example that last one there isn't quite complete, Thou shalt not covet they neighbors possessions, which include both male and female slaves according to the good book. It says some nice thoughts like don't kill, don't steal, honor thy mother and father? What if my mother and father are horrible people. How about Sunday's, I can't work on Sunday? But my preacher works on Sunday. And don't forget your slaves can't work on Sunday either...I'm glad God's looking out for my slaves.

OK, lets say they are very important and arguably very moral, but I'm not to sure that having the hots for my neighbors wife is worse than say child molestation or rape which just don't seem to crack the top 10. But then again there are parts in the bible that pretty much say rape is ok as long as you marry your victim.

And I'm not quite buying that I can't be moral if I don't have respect for the bible. I do know the difference between right and wrong, but what I believe is right and wrong could be completely different from the next person...and hate to say it, but the bible doesn't really clear things up.

Perhaps I am not saying it as well as I could "my little rant" may sound like its just that, but I am speaking about is vitally important, that is, the importance of Protestant Christianity to a Self Governing Constitutional Republic. I fear that without an agreed upon moral code to make judicial and legal decisions we are at the mercy of agendas that are opposed to individual liberty and self government. To hear Obama's argument that the Constitution is fundamentally flawed and hearing the prevalent disrespect for the scriptures as you have espoused, it is difficult to remain positive that our Constitutional self government is safe.

If we discard the Constitution and the Bible - what other moral code do you see anywhere around us anywhere close?. Without embracing the principles that these documents espouse, we will likely be unable to self govern, (William Penn said, "Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants")

Some quotes by our Forefathers:

"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." George Washington [emphasis added by me AY]

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

"A bible and a newspaper in every house, a good school in every district – all studied and appreciated as they merit – are the principal support of virtue, morality, and civil liberty.” Benjamin Franklin

“I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth – that God Governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages… I therefore beg leave to move – that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service.” Benjamin Franklin

And there are these excerpts from an article written by Ron Paul (quoted from http://lewrockwell.co...

"Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity."

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life."

"The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage." Ron Paul

***
Without a study and knowledge of the Constitution and the Scriptures we are adrift on a sea of collectivism and an ever increasingly powerful controlling federal government with a correspondingly powerless dependent populace. The goal of the collectivists is to remove God from the individual's life because without believing "we are created equal by God" as taught to us by the Declaration of Independence we have no authority to claim our right to life, liberty, property or the pursuit of happiness.

Here are some additional quotes.

Romans 13:1: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."

Peter 2:13: "For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right."

James Madison-"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries."
-1803 letter objecting use of gov. land for churches

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."


John Adams-"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."


"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved-- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."

Thomas Jefferson--"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

"We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication ."

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."


Ben Franklin--"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."

"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."

Thomas Paine--"What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith."

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."

I'll disregard Thomas Paine. Although he was instrumental in generating support for the Revolutionary War by his revolutionary propaganda as it was known, after the War he had no involvement with the new government. In his later years, he became hostile to not only religion but to the intent and principles of his own previous writings. When he died, 5 people attended his funeral, it is said.

Although the terms are often intermingled, it is my understanding that organized religion is what is known as the 'Church'.

It is the intermingling of organized religion and politics is what is detrimental to a free republic. Hence the doctrine of Separation of Church and State. It was organized religion that burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned and it was protection from organized religion that is protected by our Constitution.

But the Christian faith has never been considered a church nor has Christian faith ever been considered organized religion.

A belief in God, is elementary and crucial to a self governing republic. From the placing of one's hand upon a Bible and swearing an oath to God to defend and honor the Constitution, to the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," a belief in God is the foundation of our individualistic Constitutional self government.

Do all need to believe in a Christian creed? NO. Need all be part of a church or swear an allegiance to Christian dogma or church creed? NO.

Do those who accept elected office need to honor the Scriptures and have a belief in God? With the way the system is set up now, yes, I think so. How else and why else would you place your hand over the Bible and swear an oath to God to defend the Constitution if you don't respect the truth of the Scriptures or believe in God?

I believe all elected officials should have the opportunity to choose to place their hand on a Bible and swear an oath to God or choose not to. It is hypocritical for a person to go through the motions if they are non believers.

I personally want to vote for those who believe in God and swear their allegiance to the Constitution because there is no safety or longevity in our type of Constitutional self-government without the Scriptures and the Constitution as our moral guide.

Several Supreme Court justices would agree with me.

"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty ... of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." First chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, John Jay

"This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation ... We find everywhere a clear recognition of the same truth ... These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation. Justice David Brewer

As recently as 1952 Justice William O. Douglas wrote: "We are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being."

Supreme Court Chief Justice, Earl Warren, wrote in 1954: "I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning been our guiding geniuses ... Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia ... or to the Charter of New England ... or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay ... or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut ... the same objective is present ... a Christian land governed by Christian principles. I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it: freedom of belief, of expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers to the people ... I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country."

Is there a more peaceable, yet powerful man in all of history that compares to the life and words of Jesus? He was without political, economic or societal power and yet we as a nation opted to base our Constitution principles on his words and life; principles such as individual liberty and the power in the truth that all men are created equal in the eyes of God.

We have strayed so far away from the principles of truth. Faith in God was once considered a virtue! Today, those who are of Christian faith are painted and labeled by our media as potential terrorists!

The evil that has come over our land is due to not only a disregard of Christian faith and the Constitution but the establishment of a foreign belief system (old as history itself) called ELITISM. Elitism is a belief that some individuals are 'above' others and need not obey or be restricted by the laws that restrict the rest. Elitism believes that secrecy, deception and dishonesty are integral aspects of government 'leadership'.

The love of money is now the rule of law in America. The delusion and deception that money is more powerful than truth and honor has robbed many an American of their soul and conscience.

There's no other nation on Earth that is founded upon Protestant Christianity; and up until several decades ago no other nation on earth could have been a brighter example of the economic prosperity that is the natural result of a liberated faith filled populace.

It wasn't until the elitists came into office, forcing upon our nation a foreign doctrine of secrecy, deception and corruption that marked our economic and moral decline. They have infiltrated our government, our courts, bought up all our media and have dominated our election and nomination system. Who are these elitists? You can know them by their lack of appreciation and lack of allegiance to the principles found in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The elitist abhors individual liberty and the Christian faith that supports it. The elitist condones any means, any action or words that lead to in the end, governmental control of economics and the lives of the populace.

Our prior greatness stemmed from our national allegiance to upholding truth, disclosure, justice and freedom. We have been hated by many international factions due to our unswerving loyalty to truth and justice.

Without our national honor and virtue encouraged by Christian faith, we are weak and we are powerless. Our economy, our health, our national production, our loss of academic standing, moral decay and government corruption and dishonesty all reflect the People's lack of moral and virtuous guidance.

In denouncing Christian faith, you speak a foreign doctrine that is permeating our culture and government. The intent of this foreign doctrine is to hasten our demise as a nation and it is very effective as we can see.

I personally want to vote for those who believe in God and swear their allegiance to the Constitution because there is no safety or longevity in our type of Constitutional self-government without the Scriptures and the Constitution as our moral guide.

I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country."


The evil that has come over our land is due to not only a disregard of Christian faith and the Constitution but the establishment of a foreign belief system (old as history itself) called ELITISM. Elitism is a belief that some individuals are 'above' others and need not obey or be restricted by the laws that restrict the rest. Elitism believes that secrecy, deception and dishonesty are integral aspects of government 'leadership'.

There's no other nation on Earth that is founded upon Protestant Christianity; and up until several decades ago no other nation on earth could have been a brighter example of the economic prosperity that is the natural result of a liberated faith filled populace.

I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country.

It's talk like this that makes Christians look crazy. This is in line with people blaming things like 9/11 and Katrina on sinners or homosexuals, which is to say that God punished and killed christians because of the beliefs of non christians. So what would Jesus do, flood a city and knock down a couple of buildings and kill thousands of believers because of thousands of nonbelievers?

The evil that has come over our land is due to not only a disregard of Christian faith and the Constitution but the establishment of a foreign belief system (old as history itself) called ELITISM. Elitism is a belief that some individuals are 'above' others and need not obey or be restricted by the laws that restrict the rest. Elitism believes that secrecy, deception and dishonesty are integral aspects of government 'leadership'.

Sorry to say but the belief by some individuals that they are 'above' others and need not obey the laws, the belief in secrecy, deception and dishonest is not limited to non christians and I would argue that it's a market cornered by those with a christian faith. And doesn't your whole arguement put believers 'above' nonbelievers? Are you not saying that this country wouldn't survive without christians and it's christian beliefs. That those who hold office (AKA our leaders) must believe in scripture.

There's no other nation on Earth that is founded upon Protestant Christianity; and up until several decades ago no other nation on earth could have been a brighter example of the economic prosperity that is the natural result of a liberated faith filled populace.

Singapore is known for their economic prosperity along with being self governing and they are 42% Buddist and 15% christian. So the populace doesn't actually need to have a faith in christianity....except for in this country I guess.

I personally want to vote for those who believe in God and swear their allegiance to the Constitution because there is no safety or longevity in our type of Constitutional self-government without the Scriptures and the Constitution as our moral guide.

I completely disagree that the Constitution and democracy could not survive without the christian religion. I also have some issues of the interchangable use of God and God as he relates to Christians which you tend to use.
As recently as 1952 Justice William O. Douglas wrote: "We are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being."
Because Muslims and Jews believe in the same God as christians, they just don't believe that Jesus was who christians claim him to be. There have been hundreds if not thousands of gods over the course of human history; from Greek gods to Roman gods, Egyptian gods, persian gods. The actual monotheism movement, or the idea of one god didn't exist until about 1300 BC. And the Jews didn't take on that idea for hundreds of years later.

And to say "there is no safety or longevity in our type of Constitutional self-government without the Scriptures and the Constitution as our moral guide" I would like to say that there is no proof of that longevity. We are by far still a young nation. And again I would like to believe that the Constitution is strong enough to stand on it's own with or without the scriptures.

And here is some more William O Douglas:

Security can only be achieved through constant change, through discarding old ideas that have outlived their usefulness and adapting others to current facts.

Christianity has sufficient inner strength to survive and flourish on its own. It does not need state subsidies, nor state privileges, nor state prestige. The more it obtains state support the greater it curtails human freedom.

To hold that it may not would be to find in the Constitution a requirement that the government show a callous indifference to religious groups. That would be preferring those who believe in no religion over those who do believe ... We find no constitutional requirement which makes it necessary for government to be hostile to religion.
This last one is from the same passage as your quote...it doesn't seem like he is holding religion to a higher regard, but an equal regard to those with no religion.

Security can only be achieved through constant change, through discarding old ideas that have outlived their usefulness and adapting others to current facts.