A Gated Community for Ron Paul Supporters?

Thanks for the http://www.freestatew... link.

Very interesting !!

I wouldn't mind living there, but one person's cold, is another person's frigid......I grew up in upstate NY--lake effect snow up the ying/yang. I don't really want to do that again.....the upper left midwest (WY, ND, Idaho etc) are beautiful to behold, but not enough to get this warm weather girl to move there!

They do seem to have a good thing going on tho...

What I would love to do is find a state willing to secede from the US. Then create our own economy, elect Ron Paul as our President and tell the US federal government where to go.

What could we name this great state?

Treason?

- Jim

Republic of Lakota
Free to be responsible

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Let's take the whole country, reinstate the Constitution and call it the United States of America.

We don't need any gates. We only need to pass and enforce laws designed to protect the borders, culture, language, national security, freedom and prosperity of the People of the United States. We need to bring the domestic traitors to justice and remove them from power.

Dreaming while you are asleep is fine, but when you are awake, we need to take care of business in a practical and effective manner. I've visited many gated communities and can tell you they are deathtraps in a time of severe national economic and civil crisis. Many are off the beaten path (remote, isolated, easily deprived of power and transportation in or out). People wishing to believe a gated community or an single patch of ground is going to somehow magically provide security, liberty and prosperity are ... dreaming.

I'm afraid our victory requires nothing less than success in retaking our own government and reinstituting our cherished constitution. Whether or not this is 'our' land in the grand scheme of things is not the issue. The issue is, we must make a stand and fight. Otherwise, we may as well surrender now and wait for the train to take us to our concentration camp to plant garden vegetables for the banquet tables of the elite.

Consider this. We do not hold traitors to our nation and our Constitution accountable. What's to prevent them from following the march to this new state or nation and taking control of the government there? They know the People will accept their tyranny and their legal plunder.

The problem is not the land mass. The problem is that the People have failed to take care of business in a self-governing society. The People are content to leave governing to others and complain about the way the others govern. The People must change, take a stand and retake our government.

Secession is merely a voluntary gathering in one small place so those who despise individual liberty and self-determination can wipe us out in one battle. Remain dispersed geographically and gain strength in each of your locals. We must retake the US House at the national level to force the constitutional referendum. Are we still America or not? Are we a constitutional Republic/Democracy or not? That's the question that needs to be asked. If the powers that be answer it is not, then the real battle is on, is it not?

Running from your homes to a gated community is retreat before the slaughter. Gated communities might control crime and provide a nice atmosphere during normal times, but once the mass of the People no longer recognize the authority of those who have corrupted the laws and trashed the Constitution, the People will no longer volunteer to obey the laws. When that happens, the gated communities and the treasures they hold will be ransacked with abandon. It will be Watts, Detroit and New Orleans on a national scale.

David Sadler
www.david-sadler.org

True enough, I won't be doing the island or gated community thing for exactly the above. The husband wanted to buy land out in the country, but I convinced him that it wouldn't be any better than where we are. We would have had to start from scratch and build a house, run water and electricty, cable would be impossible--not necessities for wtshtf, but we need high speed internet for our work, without our work, we couldn't afford to do it. Plus the countryside, unless properly isolated, is no safer than a semi-rural area that we have now. I'm working in the gop here and a move to a rural area now would mean that was all in vain. So we concentrate on the matters at hand and prepare the best we can, to be right here, good or bad.

That said, I don't mind dreaming!!

Tossing in two cents - My idea of hell is a gated community. Talk about loss of individuality and becoming an isolated sitting duck!

Besides, whether you're in Podunk, Iowa or Paulville, Texas - either McCain or Obama will be president, so what's the point again?

Live where you darn well please, and spread Dr. Paul's message from there.

"Bloom where you are planted."

Happy Mother's Day!

Besides, whether you're in Podunk, Iowa or Paulville, Texas - either McCain or Obama will be president, so what's the point again?

Exactly. Unfortunately, it is pointless, because you are still forced to make income tax return every year, have social security, pay income tax, sales tax, property tax, etc. if you are in the US no matter how big is your gate.

If you go to other country, is there anywhere, where individual freedom in overall aspect is better than here? Some countries might have better civil liberties, but catastrophic property liberty, others might have slightly lower tax rates, but catastrophic civil liberties, etc.

I have heard, not sure how accurate or true, that Harry Browne was trying to find such a country, where overall freedom is significantly better than in the US. He moved to Switzerland for some time and concluded that they have more freedom in certain aspects of life and less in others. That was in 70's, maybe today Switzerland is much better than the US in freedom as we got much worse along the time.

Unfortunately, no other country including today's US is even close to having freedom like what existed in the early 19th century US, which was functioning within frameworks of the Constitution and original intention of the founding fathers, as described by Tocqueville. Times when there was no income tax, no public schools, no HMOs (public health care disguised as private), no public welfare, no social security, no Medicare, no DEA, no FBI, no Fed Reserve, no OSHA, no FEMA, no Dept of Homeland Sec, no INS, etc and prosperity and safety net for the people were strong and sound all provided by private entities. When average educational level of the US population was one of the highest in the World and health care system was envied by people in the other countries.

Look what we have today with public schools and HMOs? HMO is a public health care disguised as private as it was created by government intervention and regulations as described in page 88 of Ron Paul's Manifesto.

Happy Mother's Day!